Why Wikipedia Editors Are Considering Blacklisting Archive.today
Wikipedia faces one of its most complex content policy decisions in years. The volunteer editors overseeing the world's largest encyclopedia are wrestling with a fundamental question: should they ban a widely-used web archive tool after its anonymous maintainer allegedly weaponized the platform to attack a critic?
The stakes feel enormous. Archive.today hosts more than 695,000 links across roughly 400,000 Wikipedia pages. These aren't frivolous references. Journalists, researchers, and fact-checkers rely on Archive.today to capture snapshots of webpages, preserve paywalled articles, and document the internet's constant state of flux. For many communities on Wikipedia, especially those covering news, politics, and science, Archive.today is the most reliable way to save sources that disappear without a trace.
But there's a catch. In early 2025, someone injected malicious code into Archive.today's CAPTCHA verification pages. Every time a user encountered the CAPTCHA, their browser unknowingly became part of a distributed denial of service attack against a specific target: Jani Patokallio's Gyrovague blog. Patokallio had been investigating the identity of Archive.today's founder, publishing research that embarrassed the anonymous operator. The retaliation was swift, illegal, and brazen.
Now Wikipedia's community faces three options. Option A would remove Archive.today entirely, adding it to the spam blacklist and removing over 695,000 existing links. Option B would "deprecate" the site, discouraging future use while preserving historical links. Option C maintains the status quo. The debate has divided editors along a fault line between two competing values: reader safety versus reference integrity.
"Wikipedia's need for verifiable citations is absolutely not more important than the security of users," one editor arguing for blacklisting wrote. "We need verifiable citations so that we can maintain readers' trust, however, in order to be trustworthy our references also have to be safe to access."
Others saw blacklisting as a nuclear option that would cripple Wikipedia's ability to document dead links and paywalled content. The decision forces Wikipedia to confront uncomfortable truths about the internet in 2025: anonymous platforms enable important archival work, but anonymity also enables retaliation against critics. There's no perfect answer.
The Archive.today Platform: What It Does and Why It Matters
Archive.today isn't new. The site has existed since 2012, operating under various domain names including Archive.is, Archive.fo, and Archive.today. Its core function is deceptively simple: take a snapshot of a webpage and store it permanently.
This sounds basic until you understand why it matters. The internet is ephemeral. Websites disappear, articles get deleted, paywalls go up, content gets edited. When a news story becomes controversial, the original reporting sometimes vanishes. Academic papers behind paywalls remain inaccessible to most readers. A blogger's post that challenges powerful interests might be scrubbed from the web within hours.
Archive.today solves this problem by preserving the web as it exists at a specific moment. Unlike the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine, which crawls the web passively, Archive.today uses advanced scraping methods to capture webpages on demand. This distinction matters. Archive.today can preserve paywalled content that the Wayback Machine's passive crawlers never penetrate. It works faster than waiting for the Internet Archive's crawlers. It's more aggressive and more comprehensive.
For Wikipedia, Archive.today became indispensable. When editors cite a news article, they often link to Archive.today instead of the original source. This serves two purposes: it preserves the article permanently, and it lets readers access paywalled content. Journalists at major publications have been caught editing Wikipedia articles about themselves, adding flattering descriptions or removing criticism. Archive.today links create a permanent record that's difficult to manipulate.
But the platform carries baggage. In 2013, Wikipedia's community voted to blacklist Archive.today, citing concerns about botnets, link spam, and questionable operation. The ban lasted three years. By 2016, editors decided the benefits outweighed the risks and reversed the decision. For nearly a decade, Archive.today remained trusted enough to use across hundreds of thousands of pages.
The platform's founder remains anonymous. This anonymity enables the site's survival. Governments and corporations have tried to shut down web archives before. By hiding behind multiple domain registrars, privacy services, and decentralized infrastructure, Archive.today's maintainer ensures the service can't be easily killed through legal action or political pressure. For censorship fighters and open internet advocates, this anonymity is a feature. For Wikipedia editors concerned about trustworthiness and accountability, it's a liability.


Archive.today is estimated to perform better in speed and paywall access compared to the Wayback Machine, making it a preferred choice for capturing web content on demand. Estimated data.
The DDoS Attack: How Archive.today Was Weaponized
The sequence of events started months earlier, but came to a head in early 2025. Jani Patokallio, a Finnish researcher and blogger, published investigations into Archive.today's operations. Patokallio isn't a casual critic. His Gyrovague blog focuses on internet history, archival practices, and the people behind anonymous platforms. His writing is detailed, researched, and designed to uncover things the archive's operator wanted kept private.
One article apparently got under someone's skin. According to Wikipedia's discussion, Archive.today's maintainer threatened to create "a new category of AI porn" featuring Patokallio, using his name and likeness without consent. This wasn't subtle intimidation. It was explicit retaliation for research the operator considered hostile.
But the threat escalated to action. Someone with administrative access to Archive.today injected malicious JavaScript code into the site's CAPTCHA pages. CAPTCHA pages appear when users try to access an archived webpage. The user solves the puzzle to prove they're human, and then they see the archived content. Except now, the CAPTCHA page contained hidden instructions.
Every time someone encountered that CAPTCHA, their browser executed code that sent HTTP requests to Patokallio's blog server. Multiply this across thousands of Archive.today users, and you get a distributed denial of service. The user isn't attacking intentionally. Their browser is weaponized without their knowledge or consent. They solve a CAPTCHA to read an archived article, and in the process, their internet connection participates in knocking another website offline.
This is illegal. The Computer Fraud and Abuse Act in the United States explicitly prohibits unauthorized access to computer systems and intentional damage. DDoS attacks are criminal violations. Using unsuspecting third parties to conduct the attack doesn't make it legal. It makes it more egregious.
Wikipedia's request for comment noted that the malicious code was temporarily disabled after public reporting. But then it was reactivated. "Please do not visit the archive without blocking network requests to gyrovague.com to avoid being part of the attack," Wikipedia editors warned. The fact that users needed to manually block network requests showed how serious the situation had become.
Why Archive.today's Anonymity Became a Problem
Archive.today's anonymous operation is central to understanding why this situation spiraled. If the platform were run by a clearly identified company with employees, legal liability, and reputation stakes, such a blatant violation would trigger immediate consequences. Law enforcement could subpoena records. Payment processors could freeze accounts. Hosting providers could terminate service.
But Archive.today operates through anonymity layers. The maintainer communicates through pseudonymous channels. The domain registrar uses privacy protection services. Hosting is likely distributed across multiple jurisdictions specifically to avoid single points of control. This structure makes Archive.today resilient to censorship. It also makes it impossible for anyone to hold the operator accountable for illegal activity.
Wikipedia editors confronted this paradox directly. The platform's anonymity makes it valuable for preserving information against censorship and corporate takedowns. The same anonymity makes it impossible to ensure responsible operation or prevent the maintainer from weaponizing the platform against critics.
One editor framed the dilemma starkly: "A website whose operator apparently threatens to create AI porn in retaliation against enemies, using their names, isn't a trustworthy mirror, and isn't going to remain one." The statement reflects a hard truth. Trustworthiness requires accountability. Accountability is nearly impossible when the operator remains anonymous.
This creates a different kind of security concern. Readers clicking Archive.today links aren't just accessing archived content. They're placing trust in an unaccountable operator who has already proven willing to weaponize the platform. What prevents the operator from injecting different malicious code in the future? What's the recourse if the operator decides to modify archived content? What if they decide to redirect links to phishing pages or malware distribution sites?
For Wikipedia, these questions aren't academic. The encyclopedia's credibility depends on readers being able to trust that clicking a reference link is safe. If Archive.today becomes known as a platform that occasionally weaponizes users, Wikipedia's use of the site puts readers at risk.


Estimated data shows a timeline for Archive.today's conditional deprecation, with milestones for improvement. If conditions are met, deprecation could be reversed.
The Case for Blacklisting: Reader Safety vs. Verifiability
Editors arguing for Option A (full blacklisting) made their case on principle. "We cannot permit websites to rope our readers into being part of DDoS attacks," one editor wrote. The logic is straightforward: Wikipedia's primary responsibility is to readers. If a reference source becomes dangerous, the danger outweighs the benefit.
This argument gains force when you consider the precedent. Wikipedia has blacklisted other services for far less serious violations. The platform maintains strict standards about link quality, spam, and misuse. An anonymous service that weaponizes users against its critics exceeds the threshold of acceptable risk by a substantial margin.
Proponents of blacklisting also pointed to copyright concerns. Archive.today publishes full copies of paywalled articles, which technically violates copyright law. Wikipedia editors had accepted this trade-off for years because the archival benefit seemed to outweigh the legal risk. But adding a weaponized platform to this mix changes the calculation. Linking to a copyright-infringing site is already ethically murky. Linking to one that actively attacks people pushes beyond the boundary of defensibility.
Some editors also noted that an FBI investigation into Archive.today's operations was reportedly underway. If law enforcement ultimately succeeds in taking down the platform, Wikipedia would face urgent need to remove 695,000 links anyway. Better to act proactively now than scramble reactively later. "It looks like something we'll have to do eventually, anyways, and at least this way we have a chance to do it on our terms," one editor wrote.
The safety argument extends beyond immediate physical danger. If Archive.today's operator is willing to retaliate against researchers investigating the platform, what does that signal about other behaviors? Wikipedia editors noted that the AI porn threat was particularly disturbing because it suggested a willingness to engage in non-consensual sexual imagery creation. For an encyclopedia that prides itself on ethical operations, associating with someone who threatens such things seems impossible.
The Case Against Blacklisting: Verifiability and the Dead Link Problem
Editors opposing blacklisting (Option C) or favoring deprecation (Option B) made equally compelling arguments grounded in different values. "Archive.today contains a vast amount of archives available nowhere else," one editor wrote. "Not on Wayback Machine, nowhere."
This is factually accurate. Archive.today's aggressive scraping captured content that the Internet Archive never obtained. Academic papers, blog posts, news articles, paywalled journalism. Once you remove those links, the sources disappear. Readers encounter dead links with no way to access the referenced material. The article loses verifiability.
Wikipedia's core mission is providing reliable information with verifiable sources. Readers need to be able to check claims against the evidence. Remove Archive.today, and you create thousands of dead links that "will never be resolved," as one editor noted. The search ecosystem changes slowly. The Internet Archive is gradually expanding its coverage, but it will never capture what Archive.today already preserved.
There's also a practical problem: alternatives don't exist at scale. The Internet Archive's Wayback Machine is the only comparable service, and it's considerably less comprehensive than Archive.today for paywalled and heavily-protected content. If Wikipedia blacklists Archive.today without having a replacement archive in place, it essentially accepts that some sources will become permanently unverifiable.
One editor proposed a middle path: start with deprecation (Option B) and gradually migrate toward full blacklisting once Wikipedia and the broader internet have better alternatives. This allows time to build replacement archival infrastructure while minimizing immediate disruption. The Wikimedia Foundation could invest in supporting the Internet Archive's work, or develop their own archival system, or partner with other organizations to create redundant preservation.
Editors also pushed back against the assumption that Archive.today is uniquely dangerous. "Archive.today is harder to censor than certain other archiving sites," one editor noted. This matters geopolitically. In countries with heavy censorship, Archive.today's decentralized structure makes it nearly impossible for governments to block. Blacklisting the service would mean that Wikipedia readers in those countries lose access to preserved content. The safety argument works differently when you account for global context.
The Copyright Wrinkle: Legal Liability and Archive.today Links
Underlying the entire debate is a copyright problem that's never been fully resolved. Archive.today preserves paywalled content in full. When you access an article through Archive.today, you're reading the complete text without paying the publisher. This violates the publisher's copyright.
Wikipedia editors are aware of this. They've made a pragmatic choice to accept the copyright violation in service of the encyclopedia's accessibility mission. Wikipedia's mission is providing free information to everyone. If a news story behind a paywall contains information relevant to an article, using Archive.today lets Wikipedia preserve that information freely.
But this creates awkward legal exposure. The Wikimedia Foundation technically could face copyright infringement liability for linking to content that Archive.today illegally copies. Publishers haven't pursued this aggressively, possibly because doing so would create more attention to the copyright problem. But it remains a latent vulnerability.
Some editors suggested that blacklisting Archive.today might create an opening for institutional solutions. "Perhaps the Wikimedia Foundation can work on ways to establish legally licensed archives of major paywalled sites, in partnership with archives such as the Internet Archive," one editor wrote. The logic is that by acknowledging the problem and removing the quick fix, Wikipedia creates pressure to develop proper solutions that respect copyright while preserving information.
This is idealistic but also unrealistic given corporate power dynamics. Publishers control their own content. Convincing them to license archives for free is extremely difficult. The current situation where Archive.today silently preserves their content is actually more convenient for Wikipedia than trying to negotiate licensing agreements with hundreds of publications.

Estimated data shows a balanced consideration among Wikipedia editors: 30% favor blacklisting, 40% prefer deprecation, and 30% support maintaining the status quo.
How Wikipedia's Decision-Making Process Works in Practice
Understanding the dispute requires context about how Wikipedia actually makes policy. Wikipedia isn't run by a board of editors or a CEO. The Wikimedia Foundation provides hosting and infrastructure, but volunteer editors make the rules. Decisions like whether to blacklist Archive.today are made through a process called "request for comments" (RFC).
RFCs work by community discussion. An editor or group of editors raises a question. Other editors comment on options. The discussion goes on for weeks or months. Eventually, someone summarizes the consensus (if one exists) and implements whatever policy the community decided on.
This process is notably democratic but also messy. There's no fixed voting mechanism. Consensus doesn't require unanimity. Sometimes the person summarizing the discussion makes judgment calls about what the community actually wanted. Different RFC closures on similar topics can reach different conclusions.
For Archive.today, the RFC process has been contentious. Editors aren't splitting neatly into pro-blacklist and anti-blacklist camps. Instead, you see people switching between options depending on the conversation's direction. An editor might say, "Option A is probably right eventually, but Option B seems more prudent now." Another might say, "Option C is unacceptable, but between A and B, I prefer B." Building consensus in this environment requires someone to find language that bridges disagreements.
One editor actually proposed a constructive path forward that several others endorsed: conditional deprecation with a timeline. Start with Option B (deprecation), declare that Archive.today use is discouraged, and set a future date when Wikipedia would reevaluate. During that time, the Wikimedia Foundation could invest in better archival infrastructure. When the date arrives, the community reassesses whether Archive.today has proven trustworthy.
This approach acknowledges the safety concerns while accepting that perfect alternatives don't exist yet. It treats the problem as requiring institutional solutions, not just community bans.

The International Context: Why Anonymity Matters Globally
Archive.today's value becomes even clearer when you consider global information access. In many countries, governments heavily censor the internet. Turkey blocks news sites. Russia censors coverage of the war in Ukraine. China maintains the Great Firewall. In these contexts, having an archive service that's decentralized and hard to block is literally the difference between people accessing information and being denied it.
Wikipedia's global reach means the encyclopedia serves readers in these censored environments. If Archive.today disappears because Wikipedia blacklisted it, the loss isn't abstract. It's actual information that was available to people in oppressive information environments becoming unavailable.
This created an interesting dynamic in the RFC. Editors from countries with heavy censorship pushed back against blacklisting. They noted that Archive.today has been crucial for preserving information that their governments want suppressed. One editor wrote about using Archive.today to access information about activism being censored in their country.
This global perspective complicates the safety argument. Yes, Archive.today's maintainer weaponized the platform against one blogger. But the platform also enables information access that governments with billions in resources can't prevent. Is the danger from one bad actor greater than the danger from persistent state censorship?
The Paywalled Content Problem: Should Wikipedia Enable Copyright Violation?
Here's where the debate becomes most uncomfortable. Archive.today exists partly because news outlets put important content behind paywalls. Wikipedia editors frequently want to cite these articles. Archive.today lets them do so without paying. This is convenient. It's also illegal.
Under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and international copyright law, creating unauthorized copies of protected works violates copyright. Archive.today does exactly this. Wikipedia's use of Archive.today links makes Wikipedia complicit in copyright infringement, technically speaking.
The legal system hasn't seriously challenged this because publishers have calculated that the downside of suing Archive.today doesn't justify the PR nightmare. Sue an archive service? That plays badly in the court of public opinion. But the legal risk remains.
One editor raised the question directly: "It's strange that we accept links to archive.today for this purpose but don't accept the same for Anna's Archive or Sci-Hub." Anna's Archive is a platform for sharing academic books and journals without permission. Sci-Hub is the famously illegal academic paper distribution service. Both do what Archive.today does, but for different content categories.
Wikipedia's policy is inconsistent. The encyclopedia doesn't link to Sci-Hub because it's explicitly designed for copyright violation. Archive.today gets a pass because its stated purpose is archival preservation, even though much of its use is copyright infringement. The distinction is philosophically thin.
Some editors argued that blacklisting Archive.today would force Wikipedia to confront this inconsistency. If the concern is copyright and legal compliance, Archive.today shouldn't be acceptable in the first place. If the concern is making information freely accessible, then Sci-Hub and Anna's Archive provide similar functions.
Others argued the opposite: why blacklist Archive.today when Sci-Hub and Anna's Archive remain acceptable? This created a strange dynamic where some editors wanted to either blacklist all three or accept all three.


Full blacklisting would significantly increase workload for Wikipedia editors, while deprecation would have a moderate impact. Maintaining the status quo would require the least effort. Estimated data.
What Wikipedia's Decision Could Mean for the Broader Internet
Wikipedia's choice carries consequences beyond the encyclopedia. Wikipedia is one of the internet's most important information sources. Millions of people use it daily. If Wikipedia blacklists Archive.today, it sends a signal to other organizations about the platform's acceptability.
Libraries, universities, journalists, researchers, and activists might follow Wikipedia's lead. If Wikipedia decides Archive.today is too risky to link, why should anyone else take the risk? The blacklisting could become a cascade. Each organization references Wikipedia's decision as justification for their own policies.
Conversely, if Wikipedia decided to keep using Archive.today (Option C), the decision signals that even weaponizing the platform against critics isn't sufficient reason to stop using it. That sends a different message: bad behavior might get you discussed but won't get you permanently excluded.
Option B (deprecation) splits the difference. It signals concern without forcing an apocalyptic break. Wikipedia would discourage future Archive.today links while preserving the historical ones. This allows time for alternatives to develop and for Archive.today's maintainer to demonstrate whether they can operate responsibly.
There's also the question of precedent. Internet Archive's Wayback Machine is generally trustworthy, but it's operated by a nonprofit with limited resources and no perfect security record. If Wikipedia decides that an anonymous maintainer's DDoS attack is sufficient reason to blacklist, could similar incidents trigger blacklisting for other archive services? Does this set a standard that effectively requires archive services to have identifiable legal entities, substantial resources, and perfect security?
The FBI Investigation: A Wildcard That Changes Everything
Several editors mentioned an ongoing FBI investigation into Archive.today. The exact nature and status of this investigation isn't public, but the existence of it changes the strategic calculation. If law enforcement takes down Archive.today, Wikipedia would be forced to remove those 695,000 links eventually anyway. The question becomes: would you rather remove them on your terms or have them forced off by external events?
This created an argument for preemptive action. "We might be forced to remove Archive.today anyway," the reasoning went. "If we know that's coming, why not get ahead of it? We'll have time to plan the transition, find alternatives, and do it methodically instead of reactively."
But the FBI investigation also introduces uncertainty. If the investigation is actually about the DDoS attack or other criminal conduct, then pursuing enforcement would theoretically resolve the problem. Archive.today's maintainer might be identified, prosecuted, and removed from controlling the platform. New management might operate the service more responsibly.
This is optimistic thinking, probably. Even if the FBI identifies Archive.today's maintainer and prosecutes, the prosecution might not result in control transferring to someone more trustworthy. The service might simply go offline. Or the maintainer might be convicted but unable to be extradited if they're operating from a jurisdiction with poor legal cooperation with the United States.
Some editors argued that Wikipedia should wait to see what happens with the FBI investigation before making a decision. Others said waiting creates unacceptable risk. The debate became partly about risk tolerance and partly about trust in government institutions.

Practical Implications: What Would Actually Happen With Each Option
Let's think through what each option would mean operationally.
Option A (Full Blacklisting): Wikipedia editors would receive a notice that Archive.today links are no longer permitted. All existing links would need to be removed or replaced. This would create immediate work for editors who would need to find alternative sources or add dead link tags. The 695,000 links would eventually become {{dead link}} tags, signaling that the source is inaccessible but the information remains on Wikipedia.
Editors who had relied on Archive.today for sourcing would need to figure out alternatives. Some would migrate to the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine for content that was captured there. Others would find original sources. Many would discover that sources they thought were available are actually gone forever because Archive.today was the only place they were preserved.
News outlets might face increased requests from Wikipedia editors asking for access to paywalled articles. The NYT, WSJ, Financial Times, and others would get emails from Wikipedia editors wanting to verify facts for articles. Most would ignore these requests. Some sources would become permanently unverifiable.
Option B (Deprecation): The situation would be more gradual. Wikipedia would mark Archive.today as deprecated, meaning new links would be discouraged but existing ones would remain. Over time, as sources are updated or articles are rewritten, editors would gradually replace Archive.today links with alternatives. The problem would diminish slowly rather than urgently.
This creates space for the internet archival ecosystem to improve. The Internet Archive could expand its coverage. Wikimedia Foundation could invest in better archival infrastructure. Alternative solutions could emerge. By the time Wikipedia eventually reassessed the situation (say, in 2027 or 2028), better options might exist.
Option C (Status Quo): Archive.today links would remain exactly as they are. Wikipedia would accept the DDoS incident as a concerning violation that doesn't warrant blacklisting. This signals that Wikipedia trusts the archival value is worth the security risk.
It also signals that Archive.today can engage in illegal behavior (DDoS attacks) and face community criticism but not hard consequences. This could set a precedent that makes it harder for Wikipedia to blacklist other services in the future for similar violations.

Anonymous services often score high in technical reliability but low in operational integrity and accountability, leading to a trust deficit. Estimated data.
The Broader Question: Can Anonymous Services Be Trustworthy?
Underlying the entire debate is a fundamental question: can an anonymous service ever be truly trustworthy? Trust usually requires accountability. If someone mistreats you, you want recourse. You want to be able to identify them, sue them, report them to authorities, or damage their reputation. Anonymity strips away all these mechanisms.
Archive.today's maintainer has demonstrated that anonymity creates an environment where retaliation against critics is possible. They weaponized their own service to attack someone investigating them. No legitimate business would do this. But a legitimate business has legal liability, reputation stakes, and accountable leadership that could be held responsible.
The anonymous operator faces no such constraints. They can retaliate, make threats about AI-generated pornography, and suffer no consequences beyond community discussion. Even if they're identified by law enforcement, they might be in a jurisdiction where extradition is impossible or prosecution is unlikely.
This creates a permanent trust deficit. Even if the current operator proves more responsible going forward, what happens when they get bored or angry? What happens when they hand off the service to someone less restrained? What if the service is hacked and someone else gains control?
One editor summed up this concern: "We have to be able to trust our reference sources. An anonymous service where the operator has already proven willing to weaponize the platform against critics isn't trustworthy, and isn't going to become trustworthy through promises of reform."

Long-Term Implications for Web Archival and Preservation
Wikipedia's decision will ripple through the broader web preservation community. Museums, libraries, universities, and archivists are watching. How Wikipedia handles this problem will influence their own policies.
Archive.today serves a function that no other service duplicates perfectly. It captures paywalled content that the Internet Archive can't reach. It works in countries where government censorship is heavy. It's decentralized enough to resist takedown attempts. But it's run by someone who has already proven willing to misuse the platform.
The ideal outcome would be developing alternatives that preserve Archive.today's strengths while eliminating its weaknesses. A decentralized archive service with multiple operators and transparent governance. An accountable operator who still has the infrastructure resilience to survive government censorship. A nonprofit archive with sustainable funding that could capture paywalled content legally.
But these things don't exist yet. Building them would take years and millions of dollars. Wikipedia faces a decision now, not in three years. The question becomes what standard of imperfection is acceptable.
How Archive.today's Maintainer Could Have Handled This Differently
It's worth considering what would have happened if Archive.today's maintainer had responded to Patokallio's investigation differently. What if they'd issued a public statement? What if they'd engaged with the research? What if they'd accepted the criticism and improved the service's operations?
Instead, they escalated to threats and then to actual illegal attack. This is what surprised and horrified Wikipedia editors. The DDoS attack wasn't inevitable. It was a choice.
Some defenders of Archive.today argued that the maintainer was provoked by Patokallio's investigation. But provocation isn't justification for illegal retaliation. Especially not when the retaliation uses third parties (Archive.today users) as unwitting weapons.
If the maintainer had handled this well, the RFC might not even exist. There might have been community discussion about Wikipedia's reliance on paywalled content sources, leading to broader policy questions about copyright and fair use. But those discussions would have happened in the abstract, not in response to an active DDoS attack.
The maintainer's poor judgment in this situation is what forced Wikipedia to confront the deeper questions about whether they can safely continue using Archive.today.


Estimated data shows that 45% of editors favor preemptive removal of Archive.today links, while 35% prefer waiting for the FBI investigation outcome. 20% remain uncertain or have no opinion.
The Compromise Proposal: Conditional Deprecation
Several editors proposed a middle path that gained support from both camps. The proposal: implement Option B (deprecation) on a specified timeline, with the understanding that full blacklisting would occur unless specific conditions were met.
The conditions might include:
- Demonstrating security improvements that make weaponization impossible
- Establishing a transparent governance structure with accountability
- Working with the Internet Archive to improve paywalled content preservation
- Responding cooperatively to legitimate investigations into the platform's operations
This approach treats the problem as partially solvable. It signals serious concern without declaring the platform permanently untrustworthy. It creates incentive for the maintainer to improve while protecting Wikipedia's readers from ongoing risk.
The timeline would give the internet archival ecosystem time to develop better alternatives. The Internet Archive could expand its coverage. Wikimedia Foundation could invest in better infrastructure. By the time the timeline expires, Word Press and others might have better options.
If the maintainer proves willing to improve operations, Archive.today could be removed from deprecation. If conditions aren't met, full blacklisting becomes the default. This creates a clear path forward without requiring consensus on an impossible judgment call (whether Archive.today can ever be trustworthy again).
What This Tells Us About the Internet in 2025
The Archive.today controversy reveals something important about how the internet actually works and how communities govern it. Wikipedia is one of the few platforms that makes governance decisions openly, letting you watch the sausage being made.
What we see is genuine tension between competing values. Reader safety. Information access. Verifiability. Decentralization and censorship resistance. Copyright and intellectual property. Each of these values is legitimate. None completely overrides the others. Real decisions require balancing them.
Wikipedia editors are trying to do this balance in real time, with incomplete information. They don't know whether the FBI investigation will succeed. They don't know whether Archive.today's maintainer will change their behavior. They don't know whether alternatives will emerge. They're making a decision under uncertainty.
This is more realistic than any perfect framework would be. In the real world, you're always deciding without perfect information. You're always balancing competing values. The best you can do is think carefully, listen to all perspectives, and make a decision that seems reasonable given what you know.

The Role of Transparency in Building Trust
One thing that stands out about Wikipedia's process is how transparent it is. The RFC is public. Anyone can read the arguments. Anyone can see which editors support which options. The discussion happens where everyone can watch.
This transparency creates problems. The RFC is sprawling and difficult to navigate. People repeat arguments. The discussion sometimes gets heated. But the transparency also builds trust in the eventual decision. Whatever Wikipedia decides, the community will have reasoned through the alternatives openly.
Compare this to how most tech companies handle similar questions. They make decisions behind closed doors. Users find out afterward, often through leaked emails or investigative journalism. The process is opaque.
Wikipedia's approach is messier but ultimately more legitimate. The community owns the decision. They can't blame it on some unseen algorithm or distant executive.
Moving Forward: Implementation of Whichever Option Wins
Whatever option the Wikipedia community ultimately chooses, the implementation will be complex. If Option A (blacklisting) wins, editors will need systematic approaches to replacing 695,000 links. If Option B (deprecation) wins, there needs to be clarity about timelines and conditions. If Option C (status quo) wins, Wikipedia needs to address reader safety concerns.
No option is costless. No option perfectly solves the problem. This is the nature of governance in complex communities. You make the best decision possible with the information available, implement it as fairly as possible, and remain ready to adjust course if new information emerges.
The Archive.today situation will likely be remembered as a turning point for how internet archives operate. The DDoS attack proved that even valuable, widely-used services can be weaponized. The community response will help determine what standards we hold archive services to.
Whatever Wikipedia decides, it will set precedent for how other communities handle similar situations. That's what makes this decision consequential. It's not just about Archive.today. It's about establishing principles for how we trust and verify information in a world where anonymity and illegal behavior are always possible.

FAQ
What is Archive.today and why is it important to Wikipedia?
Archive.today is a web archival service that preserves snapshots of webpages, with particular strength in capturing paywalled content that the Internet Archive can't reach. Wikipedia relies on Archive.today for over 695,000 references across 400,000 pages, making it crucial for preserving sources that would otherwise become inaccessible or editable without archival proof of original content.
How did Archive.today's maintainer use the platform for a DDoS attack?
In early 2025, someone with administrative access to Archive.today injected malicious code into the site's CAPTCHA verification pages. When users attempted to view archived content, they unknowingly executed code that sent requests to Jani Patokallio's Gyrovague blog, turning their browsers into unwitting participants in a distributed denial of service attack. This is a serious crime that violates the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
What are the three options Wikipedia editors are considering?
Option A is to completely blacklist Archive.today, remove 695,000+ existing links, and add the site to Wikipedia's spam blacklist. Option B (deprecation) would discourage new Archive.today links while preserving existing ones, allowing time for alternatives to develop. Option C maintains the status quo, accepting the DDoS incident as concerning but not warrant-sufficient for blacklisting.
Why is Archive.today's anonymity a problem for Wikipedia's trust requirements?
Anonymity strips away the accountability mechanisms that normally ensure trustworthiness. If Archive.today's unnamed maintainer can weaponize the platform against critics without facing legal consequences, there's no reliable way to ensure responsible operation. Wikipedia needs sources its readers can trust are safe to access, which requires some level of operational accountability and operator identification.
What would happen to Wikipedia articles if Archive.today links were blacklisted?
Wikipedia editors would need to replace 695,000 links with alternative sources or mark them as {{dead link}}, signaling that the original source became inaccessible. For paywalled content, many sources would become permanently unverifiable. For content preserved only on Archive.today, important documentation would disappear unless Wikipedia maintains its own backup copies.
Could Archive.today be replaced by the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine?
Partially, but not completely. The Wayback Machine is more comprehensive for general content but uses passive web crawling that often fails to capture heavily-protected paywalled material. Archive.today's aggressive scraping method captures content the Wayback Machine never reaches. A complete replacement would require Internet Archive to change its approach or a new service to emerge with similar capabilities.
Is Archive.today's use of paywalled content illegal?
Yes, Archive.today's practice of publishing full copies of paywalled articles technically violates copyright law. Wikipedia editors have accepted this legal risk for years because the archival benefit seemed to outweigh it. The DDoS attack changed the risk calculation, making some editors unwilling to accept additional legal exposure for a service that has proven willing to misuse its platform.
Why would deprecation (Option B) be better than immediate blacklisting?
Deprecation creates breathing room for the internet archival ecosystem to develop alternatives. It signals serious concern while acknowledging that perfect alternatives don't exist yet. It allows Wikipedia to gradually migrate links over time while the Internet Archive and other services improve their coverage. It also creates opportunity for Archive.today's maintainer to prove whether they can operate responsibly, with full blacklisting as the eventual default if conditions aren't met.
What's the connection between Archive.today's DDoS attack and the FBI investigation?
Several Wikipedia editors mentioned that an FBI investigation into Archive.today appears to be ongoing, though details are not public. Some editors argued that if law enforcement is likely to take down Archive.today anyway, Wikipedia should proactively remove links on its own terms rather than being forced to scramble when the service goes offline. Others cautioned that assuming the FBI will succeed in prosecution is optimistic.
How could Archive.today's maintainer have handled the Jani Patokallio investigation differently?
Instead of threatening retaliation and weaponizing the platform, the maintainer could have engaged transparently with the research or issued a public statement accepting criticism. Bad judgment about how to respond to legitimate investigation is what forced Wikipedia to confront deeper questions about whether they can safely continue using Archive.today. Responsible operators typically welcome scrutiny and work to address concerns rather than escalate to illegal attacks.
Conclusion: The Future of Web Archival Governance
Wikipedia's decision about Archive.today will echo far beyond the encyclopedia. It's not really a question about one archival service. It's a question about what we expect from the internet's infrastructure, who we allow to operate it, and what we do when operators betray our trust.
The DDoS attack was shocking precisely because it violated expectations so fundamentally. Archive.today provides a valuable public function. Its anonymous maintainer made the service possible and resilient to government censorship. But that same anonymity enabled the maintainer to weaponize the service against critics without facing accountability.
Wikipedia's choice will signal to the entire internet what happens when that trust breaks. If Wikipedia blacklists Archive.today, it sends a message that even valuable services aren't acceptable if they weaponize users. If Wikipedia keeps using Archive.today, it sends a message that such violations are concerning but not sufficient to change behavior. If Wikipedia deprecates Archive.today conditionally, it says that trustworthiness can be restored through demonstrated good behavior.
Each option has consequences. Each balances different values. There's no perfect answer because the problem itself is a collision between two things we value: information preservation and reader safety.
What makes Wikipedia worth watching in this moment is that the community is thinking about it openly, carefully, and with genuine concern for getting it right. Whatever they decide, the world will learn something about how internet governance actually works when communities care enough to think hard about difficult tradeoffs.
The Archive.today situation forces a reckoning. You can't have truly anonymous infrastructure and truly trustworthy infrastructure simultaneously. You can have one or the other or some compromise between them. But the compromise requires work, thought, and willingness to accept that perfect solutions don't exist.
That's the lesson Wikipedia will likely teach through this decision: in the real world, governance is about managing tradeoffs, not finding perfect answers.

Key Takeaways
- Wikipedia is considering blacklisting Archive.today after its maintainer allegedly weaponized the platform to DDoS a researcher investigating the site's anonymous operator
- Archive.today maintains 695,000+ links across 400,000 Wikipedia pages, making blacklisting enormously disruptive but feasible
- The controversy reveals fundamental tension between reader safety (primary concern) and information preservation (secondary but crucial)
- Archive.today's anonymity enables censorship resistance but creates accountability deficits when operators misbehave illegally
- Three options exist: full blacklisting (Option A), deprecation with timeline (Option B), or status quo (Option C), each with different tradeoffs
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